5.12 Playing Indoor Sports with @smugliberal

In this episode, we’re talking about what Judy Blume would call Love and other Indoor Sports ;) 

Bookclub:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores / bookclub webpage

If you feel like you missed the train on the bookclub, don’t worry! We’ve got the next few weeks for you to catch up using the book club page on our website! Then, for the final episode of our Staying In series, we’re going to have on a special guest to talk about the book in full! It’s going to be very… VERY good. We hope you’ll join us! You still have time to get the book!

Patreon Drive:

Join Team Paisley Mumu in the next month to be part of our BABYSITTERS CLUB. That means weekly lives with Sophie giggling at a chapter, special shoutout next episode, group crafts, and maybe even more :) Make sure to join before Sunday to get that exclusive stream link! 

The Meat of It: 

Alex @smugliberal / Superfat episode / Mailbag episode / Fat Camp episode / Fat History Patreon Miniseries / Starring Sally J Friedman as Herself / Jezebel article / Summer Sisters / Sqirl Controversy / Reply All Episode The Mold & The Beautiful / Satsuma Street on Etsy / A Tree Grows in Brooklyn / Floodpath / Revolutionary Yiddishland / Me & White Supremacy / The 5th Season / “Chav” tiktok  

Call to Action: 

Watch The Black Power Mixtape on Amazon and donate to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. This CTA comes to us from this week’s guest Alex, who says, “Many of my professors formerly worked for the fund, and I feel really strongly about what they do and the infrastructure they already have in place to make a significant impact with their fund.” 

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If you’d like to support the work we do, you can join our Patreon by visiting patreon.com/shesallfatpod. When you pledge to be a supporter, you’ll get all sorts of goodies like our Patreon-only Facebook Group and extra content.

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5.11 Eating In with Eliza Khinsoe!

Today, we’re talking about FOOD and COOKING while in quarantine with podcaster, nutrition counselor, and COOK Eliza Khinsoe. 

Bookclub:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores / bookclub webpage

  • From Yeli: The biggest idea or theme that stuck with me throughout the entirety of the book was the way that storytelling and media perpetuated so many racist, fatphobic ideals. From the Renaissance paintings in the first chapter to the news stories in the Epilogue, these horrible ideas have been spread in very insidious ways that are still alive and thriving. Something that was particularly shocking to me in the Epilogue is how Dr. Strings mentions that “The medical field has been the most recent institution to enter the fray” of fatphobia and diet culture. It’s extremely difficult for me to imagine a world where doctors and medicine overall isn’t completely engrained in dieting and being your smallest self. There is also definitely a connection between medicine being so fatphobic and Black women being more at-risk of not being believed or being misdiagnosed in medical settings. As someone who wants to write and tell stories for a living, I have a lot of journaling to do regarding storytelling and the ways that my own storytelling is complicit or upholds anti-Black racism and fatphobia, and how to dismantle that.

  • If you feel like you missed the train on the bookclub, don’t worry! We’ve got the next few weeks for you to catch up using the book club page on our website! Then, for the final episode of our Staying In series, we’re going to have on a special guest to talk about the book in full! It’s going to be very… VERY good. We hope you’ll join us! You still have time to get the book!

Patreon Drive:

Join Team Paisley Mumu in the next month to be part of our BABYSITTERS CLUB. That means weekly lives with Sophie giggling at a chapter, special shoutout next episode, group crafts, and maybe even more :) Make sure to tune in this Sunday, August 23rd to read some Babysitters club with Sophie on Instagram live — every week after this one, it’ll be a special stream for our patrons! 

The Meat of It: 

Eliza Khinsoe / Pantry Party Pod / ASDAH / Salt Fat Acid Heat / Ruby Tandoh / London Center for Intuitive Eating / LCIE Insta / The Division of Responsibility in Feeding / Laura Thomas / Bub Appetit / Fat Foodies Facebook group / Make Paratha with Eliza / Weight Inclusive Guide to IBS / Julie Duffy Dillon / Whitney Catalano / Recipe Sophie’s going to try for a future Patreon Minisode 

Follow Eliza: @lizakhins / @lizakhinsoe / @fatbratsroll

***Use coupon code SAF for £50 off the Just Eat It & Raising Intuitive Eaters courses through the London Center for Intuitive Eating***

CALL TO ACTION: 

Last week your call to action was to learn about housing justice, and how it’s a part of anti-racism and Black Liberation. This week, we’re asking you to extend that knowledge to the #NoBodyIsDisposable Campaign. From their site, 

“Disabled people, fat people, elders, and people with AIDS or other illnesses are being specifically targeted for denial of life-saving care during care rationing. These triage policies disproportionately target people of color, poor folks, immigrants, queer and trans folks, incarcerated and homeless folks, and others already considered disposable by capitalist, white supremacist society.

We say NO! People of color and disabled people deserve to live — EUGENICS WILL NOT HAPPEN ON OUR WATCH!” 

To support the campaign, complete these three steps:

 1) Sign the campaign’s open letter to care providers and hospitals. 

2) Use their provided links to contact your government officials. 

3) SPREAD THE WORD about #NoBodyIsDisposable with a solidarity selfie — find out more about that on nobodyisdisposable.org

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Editing and Sound Design by Laila Oweda.

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5.10 Publishing Fat w/ Evette Dionne

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In this episode, we’re talking with Editor in Chief of Bitch Media, Evette Dionne about loving middle grade novels, fat body politics, and the publishing industry.

Bookclub

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores / bookclub webpage

  • From Laila: This chapter really got me thinking about how we’re still being told being fat is a result of diet and lack of exercise, instead of acknowledging the research which tells us time and again it’s actually more-so due to social and environmental factors (and even genetic differences between races such as higher muscle mass and bone mineral density in Black women!). By keeping the emphasis on individual behaviours we blame people for their fatness, deem them irresponsible for their own health (as if thinness was a marker of good health?!) and demote them in our minds. The blatant ignoring of scientific research for the benefit of insurance companies makes me feel sad for how much self-blaming fat people put themselves through for simply existing, and especially for failing to “lose the weight”. And at what sacrifice to our mental health? At what cost to ourselves do we strive to attain a “thin” body? Isn’t our mind part of our body, and shouldn’t we value it’s health?

  • From Lynn: I have questions about how police and politicians excuse the murders of Black individuals by blaming “pre-existing conditions” and How medical malpractice against fat folks, especially fat Black women, is excused by framing fatness as a “pre-existing condition.” 

  • From Yeli: This chapter really encouraged me to question the “scientists” and authors of studies before buying in or believing in what’s being said, especially if it’s being used to cause harm. The fact that Keys was able to publish all sorts of studies legitimately and “repurpose” the BMI without any criticism at the time is absurd, given that he was open about his fatphobic beliefs. Sometimes people really love to believe that science can exist in an unbiased, completely objective manner, which is impossible because humans conducting the science are still flawed and racist/fatphobic/all the isms/phobias.

  • Fatmily, this is the last full chapter of Fearing the Black Body! If you haven’t caught up yet, no worries, we’re gonna give everyone the next few weeks to catch up — you can follow along with our Book Club Questions and Exercises on our website. 

  • Read the epilogue for next week. 

Patreon Drive:

Join Team Paisley Mumu in the next month to be part of our BABYSITTERS CLUB. That means weekly lives with Sophie giggling at a chapter, special shoutout next episode, group crafts, and maybe even more :) Make sure to tune in this Sunday, August 16th to read some Babysitters club with Sophie on Instagram live — every week after this one, it’ll be a special stream for our patrons!  

The Meat of It: 

Evette Dionne / @freeblackgirl / Bitch Media / Lifting As We Climb / bookshop.org / Renee Watson / Ibi Zoboi / Julie Murphy / George M. Johnson / All Boys Aren’t Blue / Laura Goode / the literary world may never recover from #publishingpaidme / Donate to Bitch  / Evette's piece on One to Watch 

Read more of Evette’s writing on Bitch here.

CALL TO ACTION: Listen to the podcast Housing Justice LA

Housing Justice LA is a monthly pod started this year in January featuring “personal stories from people who have experienced homelessness and conversations with experts on the front lines of LA’s housing crisis.”

Recommended Episodes: Why Housing Justice / Othering, NIMBYism, and Criminalization 

Look into your local tenants union — there’s a ton of activism going on right now in correlation with the Black Lives Matter movement — because Housing Justice is Racial Justice — and it’s a really good time to get involved. Whether you’re a renter or a homeowner or someone experiencing homelessness, there’s a space for you to help and get help.

Our advertisements are done in partnership with Acast. If you’d like to sponsor our show, you can email biz@shesallfatpod.com or go to Acast.com and tell them we sent you! 

Editing and Sound Design by Laila Oweda.

If you’d like to support the work we do, you can join our Patreon by visiting patreon.com/shesallfatpod. When you pledge to be a supporter, you’ll get all sorts of goodies like our Patreon-only Facebook Group and extra content.

If you are interested in the perks available to our Patrons but you are not able to afford the monthly contribution, apply for our Patreon Scholarship! If you are a member of the Fatmily interested in becoming a sponsor, contact us here.

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5.9 Skating Fat with Fat_Girl_Has_Moxi

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**Content Note: Brief discussion of an abusive relationship**

In this episode, we’re talking about fat babez who roller skate with the patron saint of fat roller skating, Courtney SHOVE. 

Patreon Drive!

Join Team Paisley Mumu in the next month to be part of our BABYSITTERS CLUB. That means weekly lives with Sophie giggling at a chapter, special shoutout next episode, group crafts, and maybe even more :) Make sure to tune in on Sunday, August 16th to read some Babysitters club with Sophie on Instagram live. 

Bookclub:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores / bookclub webpage

  • From Lynn:

  • From Yeli 

    • Think about the ways that vegetarianism in this chapter was used to uphold fatphobic and white supremacist ideas. What are some ways that these ideas linger? What can we do to make sure we are responsibly engaging with (and talking about) it? 

  • From Laila

    • The modern phenomenon of vegetarianism has created an environment around the world that where some people feel it is okay to judge, morally punish, and cast guilt on the foodways of non-vegetarians, with an intolerance and ignorance that qualifies as racism- especially towards Black and indigenous peoples. We must remember large numbers of people still solely depend on what their surroundings offer, surviving as hunter-gatherers. In some areas where little or nothing grows people are often totally dependent on animals, fish, and plants both for food (and for making clothes and tools). 

The Meat of It: 

Courtney Shove @fat_girl_has_moxi / DCOM Brink / Moxi Rollerskates / Estrojen / Moxi Lolly Boot / Sure Grip / Impala / Nicole Byer / Moxi Pads Thick Set / Fat skate reel / Chub Club / Rise and Skate / Rise & Skate Long Beach / United Skates / @bipocwhoskate / #fatskatelove / @caitinskates / @burdbrain_ / Fat Girl Has Moxi Etsy / Buy Shove a cup of coffee / Join Shove’s Patreon 

Use code SHOVE for 5% off anything on Moxiskates.com 

For more, more, more: The whitewashing of roller skating's tiktok revival / Roller Bounce (movie with lil bow wow) / @fatfemmefatale.shop / @abominatrix 

CALL TO ACTION: check out Activation Residency

This Call to Action comes to us from *Hannah*!  They say: @activationresidency is an amazing black queer run expanded arts organization that is fundraising right now for their new initiative Respite as Resistance happening this fall where BIPOC front line activists can have a retreat style healing session alongside other activists and BIPOC healers and leaders (and they all will get paid too!!). JOIN/DONATE!

If you have suggestions for calls to action or orgs to check out, you can always email or DM us.

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5.8 destroying the covid-19 fat joke w/ YrFatFriend

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In this episode, we’re talking about FAT JOKES THAT ARE ON OUR LAST NERVE IN QUARANTINE TIMES feat. our fave recurring anon guest, Your Fat Friend.

PATREON DRIVE!

Join Team Paisley Mumu in the next month to be part of our BABYSITTERS CLUB. That means weekly lives with Sophie giggling at a chapter, special shoutout next episode, group crafts, and maybe even something special in the mail ;) 

BOOKCLUB:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores / bookclub webpage

  • From Laila:

  • From Lynn:

    • Listen to the School House Rock song “The Great American Melting Pot

    • In this Chpt we learned that the phrase “The Great American Melting Pot” originally referred to white Anglo Saxon Europeans immigrating to the U.S. and having babies with one another, melding together their “most attractive” (according to white supremacy) features and creating an attractive crop of white Americans.

      • Journal:

        1) Did you learn about “The Great American Melting Pot” in History class? What did your class talk about?

        2) How does School House Rock paint the idea of the melting pot? What do they focus on in this song?

        3) Is School House Rock propaganda? lol but like really is it?

        3) How did you feel reading this Chapter? I know for me, I felt both icky (about history I hadn’t learned) and repulsed (by the hoops Eugenicists were taking to qualify their anti-Black racism. Use the rest of your time to journal about what made you feel how and why!

    • From Yeli:

      • This week, Yeli is challenging fellow non-Black immigrants to journal about immigration and how the process is in relationship with racism and upholding colonization.

        • How can we as immigrants take up space in North America while acknowledging that we benefit from stolen land?

        • How do we engage in dismantling systems of oppression against Black communities?

        • How do we still benefit from these systems that also oppress us?

        • What is our responsibility to grapple with the violence that has occurred on the land we have made a home in?

  • For next week, Read Chapter 7!

THE MEAT OF IT:

Your Fat Friend @yrfatfriend / Season 4 ep / 7 Ways to Uproot Your Anti-Fat Bias / The False Safety of Listening and Learning / How to Love a Fat Person / Find more of Your Fat Friend’s writing here 

CALL TO ACTION: SUPPORT THE BLACK AND INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES OF CHICAGO

You have probably heard about the extreme violence the US government is deploying on Portland protestors. The president announced on July 20th that he was expanding this “federal crackdown” to other major cities, notably Chicago. Chicago obviously has a much larger population of Black and Indigenous people than Portland — and we need to come together with solidarity and support. 

There are a lot of resources out there to learn and contribute to. I want to point you to the Chi-Nations Youth Council — follow their instagram to WITNESS what is happening in Chicago; if you’re in Chicago, show up to their rallies if you’re able, and if not, contribute by sharing their info and donating to their paypal. 

And to our Black/Indigenous fatmily members in Chicago and elsewhere, stay safe. We love you. 

Our advertisements are done in partnership with Acast. If you’d like to sponsor our show, you can email biz@shesallfatpod.com or go to Acast.com and tell them we sent you! 

Editing and Sound Design by Laila Oweda.

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5.7 Traveling, Too with fatgirlstraveltoo

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In this episode, we’re re-visiting a tried and true topic of discussion: fat travels! We’re joined today by Natalie Robinson and Ashley Wall of fatgirlstraveltoo.

PATREON DRIVE!

Join Team Paisley Mumu in the next month to be part of our BABYSITTERS CLUB. That means weekly lives with Sophie giggling at a chapter, special shoutout next episode, group crafts, and maybe even something special in the mail ;) 

BOOKCLUB:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores 

  • From Yeli: 

    • One of the things that really stood out to me about this chapter was how many writers and poets were out here being at the forefront of these fatphobic and racist movements! I never studied Ralph Waldo Emerson in university, but I know for a fact that his name is tossed around constantly. I can’t say I’m surprised that he was so vile, but it really goes to prove how much (again) learning institutions uphold white supremacy! For anybody that’s ever been in a literature major or course, or even simply in high school, you KNOW how white the course reading and theory is! The fact that Shakespeare is crammed down our throats every single year of our education, yet books written by a Black author are cornered into “multicultural studies” is absolute white supremacy! AH!!! 

    • Another thing that really stood out to be was how many WOMEN were out here propagating the ideas that fatness was immoral, and how that was tied to Blackness! It reminded me of how the birth control movement is seen in present-day as some sort of revolutionarily feminist movement from the beginning, when in reality its roots were actually racist - lots of the ways that reproductive control were marketed and justified were actually in order to minimize the amount of non-white people being brought into the world. Have you ever heard somebody say that the reason the world is overpopulated is because families in other places in the world have millions of children? Because I was TAUGHT THAT in high school, and it was only a couple of years ago that I was able to educate myself and unlearn it! Anyways, goes to show how white women have historically always been NOT intersectional. If anyone wants to learn more about the rise of reproductive “rights”, there’s a really great documentary up on Youtube called “No Más Bebés.”

  • From Laila: 

    • In this chapter, we can spot so many ways the editorial world upheld fatphobia and racism. Namely, Harpers Bazaar editor Margaret Elizabeth Sangster promulgating theories of Anglo-Saxon superiority by featuring writers such as Edith Bigelow, author of “The Sorrows of Being Fat”, in which she described fatness as “the most undesirable state”. In one magazine article, Bigelow went as far as to say a fat society lady “will not be a social success unless she burnt-cork herself” and go to live in Africa where they value fat women (for those unfamiliar, the term “burnt-corking” refers to donning a form of blackface in which literal cork is burned to ash and then used as cheap blackface makeup.). If you were white and fat, you were not considered white at all as fatness was explicitly associated with Blackness and Africa. In other words, Harpers Bazaar was promoting a zero tolerance zone for fatness in America. Let us not forget, the requirement to be truly American has always been, first and foremost, to be white. 

    • Something to note was the historical exclusion of the Celts from elite white Christian life on the basis that they were not white. The writing of British Ethnologist James Cowles Pritchard purported the Celts, on the basis of their looks back then (short, tan) were Asiatic aka Arab or North African, Semitic, and therefore “African Kin”. Pritchard said “Whatever else they may be, the Semitic languages are first, African”. What truly caught me off guard was the eventual absorption of the Celts into the American mainstream during the 1880's through 1920’s better known as “racial rehabilitation”. Being finally granted white privilege meant the lens of discrimination could now be shifted from their backs onto a new target.

    • Exercise: Can you spot the pattern of colonial mentality and oppression that makes up the basis of our country? Who do you think wears the target on their backs in the present day? In 2020, who gets to be white in America? Also, can you spot examples in editorial (print and digital) that go against the grain of promoting fatphobic and racist norms? I challenge you to explore the ways you can divest your dollars from fatphobic and racist companies. Begin to intrrogate the ways in which your complicity helps contribute to the continued oppression of fat non-white bodies.

  • From Lynn:

  • From Sophie: 

  • For next week, read Chapter 6! 

The Meat of It:

Natalie Robinson / Ashley Wall / Fat Girls Travel Too / on Insta / Resource on Election Laws by State / @hownottotravellikeabasicbitch 

Fat Girls Travel Too wants SAF listeners to use code SAF100 to get $100 any travel experience with the fat girls travel squad (whenever traveling becomes safe again!!) 

CALL TO ACTION: Center Black and Indigenous voices in your life. 

We can’t pick your friend group, but we can pick your new social follows. Here are 10 activists, artists, and writers to follow. + SEND US your fave BIPOC x fat x queer follows so we can share them with the fatmily — and if that’s you, DM us so we can hype you up! 

Follow: Junglechimera / Dashaunlh / Thethicknutritionist / Amapoundcake / Embrace_mess / Nalgonapositivitypride / Sassy_latte / Ihartericka / Shaneebenjamin / iamjarijones

Our advertisements are done in partnership with Acast. If you’d like to sponsor our show, you can email biz@shesallfatpod.com or go to Acast.com and tell them we sent you! 

Editing and Sound Design by Laila Oweda.

If you’d like to support the work we do, you can join our Patreon by visiting patreon.com/shesallfatpod. When you pledge to be a supporter, you’ll get all sorts of goodies like our Patreon-only Facebook Group and extra content.

If you are interested in the perks available to our Patrons but you are not able to afford the monthly contribution, apply for our Patreon Scholarship! If you are a member of the Fatmily interested in becoming a sponsor, contact us here.

Questions/Comments/Concerns? Email fyi@shesallfatpod.com or call us at (213)-375-5023 to leave a voicemail. 

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5.6 Freaking Out with Abi

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In this episode, we’re talking about how fatness is portrayed in the disaster genre. We’re bringing on friend of the pod Abi to talk Lord of the Flies, Wall-E, and Dietland!

Bookclub:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores / bookclub webpage

  • From Yeli:

    • There were lots of examples in this chapter of the ways that different institutions uphold fatphobia and racism. For example, the medical industry really creates a connection between food and morality. This is directly reflected in the “standards of taste” document. It was also interesting to see that the document was changed and had a “reconfiguration of aesthetic details” - it really goes to show that all this systemic fatphobia is intentionally man-made! I also saw a connection between the society at Oxford back then upholding those ideals, and how universities and colleges today are built on white supremacy. 

    • Exercise: First, journal about the ways that your industry, workplace, or media that you consume is complacent in fatphobia and white supremacy.  Then, brainstorm one concrete way that you will work to dismantle them.

  • From Laila:

    • One aspect of Ch. 4 that gave me pause was the idea of "temperance" back then, and how I can see it’s far reaching effects still exist today. For example, it has always been considered as common knowledge amongst my girlfriends to "make sure to leave some food on your plate" if you’re ever on a fancy date at a nice restaurant. Or to "not dare touch the food table" during work meetings or professional conferences. These concepts are extremely damaging to women beyond obvious food restriction implications. It’s this idea that above all displaying your “femininity” is what matters most about you in this world. This sells such a damaging message that femininity comes first, and femininity = thin-ness, and  showing restraint. The idea that performing femininity is more important than say, being present and enjoying yourself on that date or say, grabbing a bagel while sitting through that work meeting or while learning in a conference is completely absurd and centers men. It speaks to the ways men historically projected their stuff onto women, and the ways men have treated women as property, and therefore something to be controlled.

    • By viewing women a reflection of male wealth, status, and morality,  it signals women's bodies don’t belong to the women who inhabit them, but rather to the men. Men have expected us to contort and starve ourselves for social status points, for honour, for bragging rights in their boys clubs. The Spectator and the Ugly Club are perfect examples of this. Men have had no issue putting the suffering and burden of it all squarely on the backs of women. The notion that women’s bodies have no inherent value and exist solely to serve the whims of men must stop.

    • Food waste as a symbol of (performative) femininity (and therefore a representation of one’s wealth or status) is just SO wild and shouldn’t exist in modern times. So, I urge any listernes out there to come join me on the dark side in learning how to a) divest your body from this harmful narrative and reclaim it as your own by b) de-centering men. Come in, the water is just fine! Do not be afraid to appear any less “feminine”. Do not be afraid of the implied lower social status”... enter into this wide, wonderful world. A place where you can take up all the space you want, where we can all eat whenever our bodies want us to...where we can be together to, in the words of Cardi B., “fat in peace”! ; )

  • For next week, read Chapter 5!

The Meat of It:

Abi on Medium / Abi on Insta / Clip from Tuca&Bertie / San Andreas / The Day After Tomorrow / Twister / Lord of the Flies / "Tongan Castaways" story / Kid Nation / Dietland / Sarai Walker / Sofie Hagen / Wall-E / Space Odyssey Clip *CONTENT NOTE FOR ABELISM* / Article about Black Masculinity in Moonlight / The Big Bride Club / SAF Wedding Episode 

CALL TO ACTION: Learn about Black Women in Film History! 

Check out this insta graphic from @thepowerthread and @bysahra to learn about 4 iconic Black women directors. 

Learn about Ava DuVernay / her documentary 13th about anti-black racism and prisons in the US / her miniseries When They See Us about five Black boys falsely accused of assault and the violence done to them. These are both IMPORTANT, pretty necessary viewings, most especially for non-Black folk. 

But we want you to learn more about Ava DuVernay beyond her incredible talent. Watch Ava DuVernay’s indie film I Will Follow. It’s about this woman moving out of her home, dealing with the grief over her Aunt’s recent death.  Use Netflix Party to watch with a friend. 

Not sure what we’re gonna do yet but maybe we’ll have a livestream or a watch with us twitter/insta story thread!

Our advertisements are done in partnership with Acast. If you’d like to sponsor our show, you can email biz@shesallfatpod.com or go to Acast.com and tell them we sent you! 

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5.5 Dressing Up with Jazzyme Jay

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In this episode, we’re talking about clothes in quarantine — dressing up for fun, wearing what’s comfy for fluctuating weight, and hashtag queer cottage core — with style advisor to the pod, Jazzmyne Jay!

Bookclub:

Fearing the Black Body / Black Owned Bookstores 

  • From Sophie:

    • we’re working on it lol

  • From Lynn:

    • Page 67, end of the middle paragraph, “The racialized female body became legible, a form of ‘text’ from which racial superiority and inferiority were read.” Okay WOW — something to track is WHITE femininity, thinness, and morality. 

    • Page 72, end of the first paragraph, theories about race “were to be read and expanded upon by subsequent scientists and philosophers, several of whom were deeply invested in maintaining or extending the slave trade.” Folks. We have to remember that this new way of looking at “race” HAD A VESTED INTEREST in explaining away the dehumanization of enslaved people. If they could prove that Blackness was innately bad or sub-human, they could justify the slave trade. And that’s the BASIS ON WHICH RACE THEORY WAS WRITTEN!

    • Page 84, middle of the second paragraph, linking fatness and blackness “transformed the act of eating from personal to political.” This is an important chunk of text to start understanding the thesis of the book — how fatphobia was begotten by anti-black racism. 

    • Page 92, bottom of page, “the fascination with Sara’s [Sara Bartman] size [...] was simultaneously grotesque and exotic: a sexual specimen with a peculiar racial identity.” Here’s another really important idea to track: Black Female Sexuality, and how white European men defined it as excessive and grotesque. 

  • From Laila:

    • As covered in Chapter 3 of the book, French born, Francois Bernier “was the first person in the world to create a system of human classification based on ‘race’ ” He specifically championed the racialization of female bodies. In modern day France, sadly yet unsurprisingly we still see the imprint he left behind.  Racist ideals are constantly thrust upon French women even today. In 2016, there was a ban on "burkini’s” across the country. Stories across the country began popping up of beachgoing Muslim women were being harassed, publicly shamed, and fined for wearing full-length swimsuits. While this issue intersects with Islamophobia, it is also about feminism and ingrained racist ideals that value thin and white bodies. In one incident in Nice, a group of French policemen went as far as making a woman remove her clothing in front of fellow beachgoers. The woman was also issued a fine, which read that she was not wearing “an outfit respecting good morals and secularism”. Then French Prime Minister Manuel Valls stated the burkini and burqa represented the "enslavement of women". And French education Minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem said as a feminist, she disapproved of the “burkini”. Despite the courts ruling from the state council that the burkini bans to be a “serious and manifestly illegal violation of fundamental freedoms”, more than 20 mayors have defiantly kept in place decrees under which municipal police can stop and fine any women in full-body swimsuits at the beach. It is clear that France is still perpetuating racist scientific theories created by people like Francois Barnier and projecting them onto any women that don’t conform to their narrow standards. I would argue against the Prime Minister’s words, and say that what is actually enslaving women are oppressive viewpoints such as his. And as if that wasn’t enough? France will still ban Islamic face coverings even after making COVID-19 mask wearing mandatory. This state of afairs in France not only exemplifies how the policing of non-white bodies must continue to be called out in an effort for a more nuanced dialogue, but it also points out France’s Femism and Islamophobia issues, too. This is why intersectionality matters, folks! Our various oppressions are interlinked.

    • In what ways do you see racist ideals towards Black and non-white bodies around you? Can you spot the intersectionality that underpins oppression(s)?

  • For next week, read chapter four!

The Meat of It:

Jazzmyne’s Insta, Twitter, and ASOS insta / article on alt black girls / Jazzmyne actually did bleach her eyebrows / Ori / Why queer teens are embracing Cottagecore /Miss Honey / Chessy from the parent trap / depop / tunnel vision / Personal Style episode / Mailbag episode

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The Black Trans Lives Matter Youth Fund is a direct response to how COVID-19 and police violence, among other things, have disproportionately impacted the Black trans and queer communities. They’ve already raised $100,000, and give a detailed breakdown of where that money will go — but we want to mobilize our fatmily to keep bringing that number up to their $250,000 goal. Donate. Send us your receipt. We’ll be keeping track on our insta of how much the fatmily has raised. Hopefully that can inspire the community to donate more and more! As the Black Excellence Collective says, “Now is our moment to change the world!”

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